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	<title>Comments on: Chasing Chump Change Cash Flow &#8212; Sacrificing Tomorrow&#8217;s Dollars For Today&#8217;s Pennies</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Brown</title>
		<link>http://bawldguy.com/chasing-chump-change-cash-flow-sacrificing-tomorrows-dollars-for-todays-pennies/#comment-1074</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chris - I&#039;ll assume you&#039;re more comfortable with Ambien though, because you&#039;re such a young whipper-snapper. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris &#8211; I&#8217;ll assume you&#8217;re more comfortable with Ambien though, because you&#8217;re such a young whipper-snapper. <img src='http://bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff - thanks. 

I look at every client individually. For example, I just took on a young Idaho couple recently. They are currently under contract for one property. They currently have cash reserves of $12,000 AND a $20,000 HELOC earmarked also for Sominex duty. :) I&#039;m a little protective of young people with kids. 

I also started a middle aged lady, divorced, with no kids at home with $50,000 in the bank. She&#039;s a hospital administrator, making less than $50,000/yr. She now owns four investment properties. Because she&#039;s not making say $80,000 a year, and totally on her own, I&#039;m more comfortable erring on the side of too much than too little.

No real rule of thumb though - except having too much rather than too little. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff &#8211; thanks. </p>
<p>I look at every client individually. For example, I just took on a young Idaho couple recently. They are currently under contract for one property. They currently have cash reserves of $12,000 AND a $20,000 HELOC earmarked also for Sominex duty. <img src='http://bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m a little protective of young people with kids. </p>
<p>I also started a middle aged lady, divorced, with no kids at home with $50,000 in the bank. She&#8217;s a hospital administrator, making less than $50,000/yr. She now owns four investment properties. Because she&#8217;s not making say $80,000 a year, and totally on her own, I&#8217;m more comfortable erring on the side of too much than too little.</p>
<p>No real rule of thumb though &#8211; except having too much rather than too little. <img src='http://bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, Jeff.  

I like the &quot;Sominex Account&quot; idea...I&#039;m going to have to use that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Jeff.  </p>
<p>I like the &#8220;Sominex Account&#8221; idea&#8230;I&#8217;m going to have to use that one!</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Phelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I am familiar with this concept but have never seen the consequences presented as your Dollars in Our Levi&#039;s example.  Fantastic!  Great way to bring the future into the present.

Do you have a rule of thumb for Sominex accounts?
Most lenders these days require 4-6 months PITI.  Do you go further?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I am familiar with this concept but have never seen the consequences presented as your Dollars in Our Levi&#8217;s example.  Fantastic!  Great way to bring the future into the present.</p>
<p>Do you have a rule of thumb for Sominex accounts?<br />
Most lenders these days require 4-6 months PITI.  Do you go further?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect timing Chris. Yesterday i spoke with a KC title guy in charge of commercial biz development. He was telling me stories of folks he knows in related businesses who have found themselves stuck in the endless spin cycle of buying dirt cheap property in neighborhoods more or less owned by &#039;The Bad Guys&#039; who are then surprised when they end up terrible tenants, followed by no income, followed by being shunned by lenders sporting a three digit IQ. :)

The ending to this spin cycle is a tumble in the dryer, conveniently set on &#039;cottons&#039;. :)

You can find those rare gems with solid location and higher than normal rent to price ratios - but then you have to listen to guys like yourself who&#039;ve done three other deals in less than half the time. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect timing Chris. Yesterday i spoke with a KC title guy in charge of commercial biz development. He was telling me stories of folks he knows in related businesses who have found themselves stuck in the endless spin cycle of buying dirt cheap property in neighborhoods more or less owned by &#8216;The Bad Guys&#8217; who are then surprised when they end up terrible tenants, followed by no income, followed by being shunned by lenders sporting a three digit IQ. <img src='http://bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The ending to this spin cycle is a tumble in the dryer, conveniently set on &#8216;cottons&#8217;. <img src='http://bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You can find those rare gems with solid location and higher than normal rent to price ratios &#8211; but then you have to listen to guys like yourself who&#8217;ve done three other deals in less than half the time. <img src='http://bawldguy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lengquist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Lengquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things;

1. For me, if the house pays for itself that&#039;s all I care about.  My earnings are delayed but should be sizeable.  

2. There seems to me to be a direct correlation between large cash flow and large tenant headaches.  Because usually, not always, great cash flow with little leverage means substandard neighborhoods. I better stop.  I&#039;m making some people mad, I can feel it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things;</p>
<p>1. For me, if the house pays for itself that&#8217;s all I care about.  My earnings are delayed but should be sizeable.  </p>
<p>2. There seems to me to be a direct correlation between large cash flow and large tenant headaches.  Because usually, not always, great cash flow with little leverage means substandard neighborhoods. I better stop.  I&#8217;m making some people mad, I can feel it.</p>
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