The Fact Of The Matter Is…

the nile river

Builders, at least some of them, are demonstrating that Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.

But why should they be any different than investors in markets like Southern California? If I’ve heard it once, I’ve heard it twice — “I simply am not gonna sell my property for less than it’s worth.” I don’t think you will either. As a matter of fact, I think you’ll sell it for exactly what it’s worth.

I heard that very statement from a very nice, and amazingly asute lady yesterday morning. She wasn’t being emotional at all. Her success in the last few years, has of course been fueled by the cartoonish appreciation we all witnessed. The problem?

The property she won’t sell for a penny less than $XXX hasn’t sold since May. I told her either she is over priced, or if that isn’t the case, her broker ain’t gettin’ it done. She said her agent is pretty good. I’ll accept that — but you can’t have both. 98% of the time, if indeed your agent is solid, almost four months on the market might just mean the property is priced too high.

“But we reduced it twice!” Really? What’s your point? :) The buyers are apparently unimpressed — in droves.
alligator at the door

Before I continue — did I tell you she was willing to eat a grand a month in negative cash flow to keep the property for another three years? In the investment game we call that an alligator. She figured, (maybe correctly) that in three years the market would be better, and she’d get a better price. The $1,000 a month out of her purse? She didn’t even blink an eye.

The lesson here: 25-70% equity in investment properties located in moribund areas are like canoeing with a concrete block as cargo. Prudently increasing your leverage (different levels for different investors and areas.) while simultaneously doubling, or sometimes even tripling your total property values will act as a turbo charger to your capital growth rate. The higher the equity from which you’re trading, (leaving) the bigger the hit for your capital growth. Those who choose to wait their high priced market out hoping for appreciation to return will find the demand is less than they’d hoped. Make your move now — 5-10 years from now you’ll be at the backyard BBQ braggin’ about how you made this move under the radar when prices were pretty low.

Here’s what I told her. You’re enormously successful as a business lady and real estate investor. Your net worth requires two commas. Listen to the following numbers — I’ll be brief

If you take $50,000 less, your equity can still get you into a million bucks in growth-region properties via the execution of a tax deferred (1031) exchange. So CalIf those units don’t go up an inch the first year, you’re at least not out the $12,000 negative cash flow. If they go up just 5% you’ve made — wait — here it comes — $50,000 in capital growth. Either way you’re better off because you know So Cal is gonna be one of the last places to come back. (Not to mention an extended hold of three more years has a price tag of $36,000. So even if the property appreciated that much, she’d only be even.)

Can you say Purposeful Planning? Her businesses produce so much income, she could very possibly be the rare exception to the Sominex (Ambien) Account rule.

However, areas like Kansas City, Denver, Boise, parts of Texas, parts of North Carolina, (and others) will begin to visibly appreciate before most of the country.

This lady is in her early sixties with the mind of a 40 year old, and has energy to burn. She’s been buying and selling properties, starting blocks(fixing some) and selling them — so she could pay taxes. (?) We’ve had two short conversations so far, and already I’m already in the starting blocks eager with anticipation at what she can accomplish in the next several years. She said she’s like my mom, who’s 76 and still working. (By the way, it was lunch at Mom’s today!) She said she’ll never stop working. She’s scary good at making her businesses pay, and really enjoys her work.

In the five to six years we had silly price run-ups I’d guess she’s made a few hundred grand net, buying and selling real estate.

Even with relatively far lower annual appreciation rates over the next decade, I wager she’ll at least triple what she did the last five. I think she senses that too.

She’s a very smart lady with a nearly vertical learning curve. Lord I love this part of the business.

I hope we get to work together. I know one thing, my wife already loves her — and as most of you know, wives are very rarely wrong. :)

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About BawldGuy

I'm second generation real estate, first licensed in fall of 1969. Having been mentored by several iconic brokers, I'm also CCIM trained, having completed all 200 hours back in 1980. Have successfully executed well over 200 tax deferred exchanges, many of which have been multi-state in nature. Strong points are analysis and the creation and real world application of Purposeful Plans employing several strategies synergistically. The idea is to arrive at retirement with the most after tax income possible, backed by the largest net worth.

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Comments

  1. Cher says:

    “denile”….that’s funny.
    And that aligator picture, where did you get that?
    I never thought that San Diego property would be aligators. Times they are a changin’….

  2. Liz Strauss says:

    This is a fabulous object lesson. “Willing to eat a grand a month for 3 years . . . ” How often are we short-sighted like that? It’s amazing how we’ll believe what we want to believe. :)

  3. Nate says:

    Thanks Bawld Guy, good reminder that things are still moving. As a planner, what indicators are you looking for to determine good markets? I know you’re big on Boise (and I was surprised to hear parts of NC), what indicators point to better things ahead? Realizing your crystal ball is as cloudy as others, how do you look at these things?

  4. Here’s another great Seller saying…”But this is what I need to move on to the house I want.”

    Great. Let me know if you find a Buyer who cares.

  5. BawldGuy says:

    Nate – >,,,what indicators are you looking for to determine good markets?

    Great question – We look for a solid employment base, and hopefully current and projected job growth. It’s also encouraging to see the big retail players either in place, or better yet, just arrived or coming soon.

    We also look at the last decade’s real estate performance. Was it steady like a D-8 tractor, or did it show some spikes? What’s their rental market like – crucial. Vacancy rates – both now and projected.

    What do home builders think of the area?

    One of our most important questions is how the local and state governments treat the business sector. For example California has been terrible in that regard for a long time, causing significant defections. Idaho is pro business, as is Boise – which is always encouraging to investors, builders, and the heavyweights like Wallmart.

    Our feet on the ground is the final step. There’s just no substitute for ensuring you’re seeing what ‘they’re’ seeing. :)

    >,,,what indicators point to better things ahead?

    I’ll take the macro view for this one.

    Relatively low income tax and capital gains rates. The continued growth of job creation, resulting in a low unemployment rate. A Federal Reserve Chairman not enamored by interest rates alone, but by money supply. Bernanke is that guy.

    Finally, is the federal gov’t more or less staying out of the way of business in general? Of course these days that’s a relative term at best, isn’t it? :)

    Thanks for the questions, Nate. Please come back often.

  6. BawldGuy says:

    Cher – I have several photo sites I frequent.

  7. BawldGuy says:

    Liz – The grand a month to her, is like $100 a month to most folks. It had little if any impact on her decision. It was akin to the average guy deciding which beer to buy at the store.

    She’s not short-sighted as much as uninformed of what’s available on her options menu. She has a bunch more options than the typical investor.

  8. BawldGuy says:

    Chris – Point very well taken.

    The difference here is the seller’s ability to literally do nearly anything she wants because of her financial condition. She’s incredibly bright and even after just a few minutes of me running off at the mouth about different approaches, she grasped relatively ‘sophisticated’ concepts very easily.

    She’s gonna kick some major butt. :)

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